Review by Joel Wesseling, Courtice, Ontario, Canada - January 2009
Anyway, Got the Elsinores working late last night and spent 3 hours with
them and they sound amazing. I love the their ability to go loud without ear
fatigue or shouting etc - -not over-dynamic I guess is part reason [I
think he means that dynamics are not overly exaggerated - edit].
Soundstage, treble, bass, driver integration is all very good. I'm in
analytical mode right now and very excited about listening the rest of the
week. Going to spend Friday evening with two friends who also have interest
in this area and interested in their thoughts.
I have many things to say... but have time restraints and really just want
to continue listening during the evenings, especially LP's.
Thank you for this design and your time. I'm very impressed.
I continue to be captivated by these speakers. The balance makes them sound
complete. The midrange is wonderfully natural. Acoustic music is pure magic.
I crank rock recordings for a couple of hours and feel the energy, presence
and openness and leave the room with the same ears as when I entered.
I want to hear them for a long period with several amplifiers, the three I'm
trying have each there own character I have one small issue and that is that
the closed hi hat sounds funny, unnatural in some way? I started the first
night with a 40c Chinese 2.7 ohm resistor on the tweeter. The next day I
received a Mundorf 2.7 ohm resistor and swapped it out and the improvement
on overall treble was huge but the hi hat thing is still noticeable?? Maybe
tubes are the answer or better resister still... maybe it's a few
recordings, need more time.
With this small issue with closed hi hat, the Elsinore is still the most
satisfying speaker I have heard. I can remember the sound of every kilo-buck
system I've heard and I found an anomaly with each that would keep me from
buying and this includes the overly lively treble from Audio Note speakers
(inner reflections from baffle) but purity (weight, harmonics and edge I
guess) of the fundamental part of the notes on the jazz recording I heard is
still in my memory... must be the AN tube amps.
My friends were very impressed. The first thing that was said by Jay when
they walked into the room is "the sax on that recording normally sounds too
strong" He got it right away. I heard 3D many times and both guys thought at
least $10k at a retail shop. What happened fairly quickly though is they
wanted to listen to the music and they forget about how it was being
generated. We did question the amount of ambient information and that they
were not open enough and moving them further apart was asked of me and I
rejected it at that time because I new it didn't work with some other
speakers and was thinking about some other things that it might be... so we
left them for the evening.
Well, stupid me. I spread them out
now (close to 10 feet now with inside panels visible) so my first paragraph
stands.. Now when I pull out familiar recordings, they have all the air that
I remember. Someone said "monitor with a heart" - I feel this way when I
My friend are coming back soon with the new placement and they will be
I'll give you their comments and you can quote anything that has or will be
Just wanted to let you know that I've been listening all week and thinking
about the treble. I'm going over everything that I can think of and believe
what I'm hearing is simply the tweeter's ability to reveal how the treble
was recorded. Since every recording is unique some don't have as much cymbal
ring coming through from the recording process but when the recording has
the treble content then it shows. It's not a case of one recordings having
less or more treble it's the amount of treble complexity in the recording
coming through. The scanspeak tweeters in my other speakers have their own
personality so the treble differences within the recording are not displayed
as widely I've always found the sound of treble to be the hardest to figure
out but I thing I gradually discovering that the Peerless is an amazing
Dissecting the Elsinore means nothing anyway because they simply sound
Fabulous but I will post much more thoughts and experiences on diy audio. I
have a personal vendetta against some commercial brands and mainstream
magazines based on some bad experiences, so my retaliation is to try to get
people to believe/realize that the Elsinore easily competes with Big name
brands that are very expensive. It will better many of them. Last night my
friend said these were better then the Wilsons we (myself and my friend were
on a road trip) heard in Chicago - I thought the same thing earlier in the
week an had not mentioned that to him... I much prefer them over Sophia as
well for different reasons. The Wilson we heard were the Maxx series 2.
I going to experiment much more with many many recordings along with
listening to them up stairs in a wide space without treatments. Hope to have
300b mono's running soon as well.... I'll post thoughts on Diyaudio.
Additional Comments from
Consider leaving the cabinets the
way there designed. Joe has went to great lengths to have amazing sound come
out of simple to make cabinets..
When I arrived at the point where all the panels where dry fitted I thought
they looked very, very nice and much better than any picture has show. The
trick to a beautiful look then lies in how the finish is done using one or a
few of the many materials available.
When your listening to the Elsinore cosmetics become unimportant.
Danger: If you assemble and listen before you put the finish on, like I did,
it will be very hard to shut them down to complete the surfaces.